THE MUD DREAM – TRANSCRIPT Feb 24, 2021
hey everybody i appreciate you being with us this is pastor dana coverstone here with my good friends john redenbauer and sheree goff
and going to be sharing a dream that i had from february 18th to the 20th and i’m discovering the value of having
good friends that will pray and not just look at the dream and think what does this mean who will pray who will hear the spirit’s voice
and so i’m grateful for to my two really great friends who helped help me with this dream and
when i have a dream i share it with them primarily first and ask them to look through it look at it some have said well why do you take so
long to do that because i want to make sure i get it right i want to make sure i’ve heard it right i want to make sure i share it right
and i want to make sure that there are people i’m accountable to who can look at that dream and and that just makes sense of it and
i’m sure there are things that are very easy to see what the interpretations are uh but i’m thankful well i have some
great friends in my life for helping me with that so just gonna share this i’m calling this the money
it was a dream i had from february the 18th to the 20th and here’s what here’s what i saw i saw a landscape of
ice and snow and there was a fog over the ground that was so thick you could not see through it
and then it began to clear as that fog cleared i saw the outline of the southern coastal states from
texas over all the way to florida and i could see buildings that resembled churches they
had staples that obviously had crosses and things so they were buildings that resembled churches in each of those
southern states and there was smoke coming out of each one of those churches
and there were many believers praying earnestly and loudly in each one of them and i could hear those people praying
out loud they were repenting they were confessing the sins of the nation and their own sins as well it was
very much like a daniel prayer and there were many tears and there was wailing
wailing as their lost levels were being brought up in their prayers these people were praying for family members and moms
and dads and husbands and wives and kids who were not serving the lord they asked for forgiveness for being an
inadequate witness and for being anchored to sins that they knew that were wrong but they had kept holding on to this
chain and and because of that it ruined their walk with the lord so they were anchored to things that they knew they shouldn’t
be doing and the latter that they prayed and the more aggressive that they prayed as they
confessed i saw that all this snow was beginning to melt um i saw that
the ice began to disappear and the snow disappeared and as as it happened this began to happen in every state but
it also was happening from right around the church it started it didn’t start out in the countryside or in the land
it started the the snow began to melt away from the church and it just kept melting uh consistency consistently and that
happened as they prayed louder and more aggressively this also began to happen every step began to see more of the united states
it was happening in every single state and as the snow disappeared over the
corporate united states of america it left behind this gray mud and you could tell it was like
death and decay um in the dream and that’s going to sound strange but i
could i could tell that it smelled like death and decay it was just decay it was great it was no life in it there
was very little green vegetation no leaves on the trees the ground was
dead and exposed even the grass was just like old dead and brown
the believers went out from the churches and they began holding their noses and they were asking god why he had not
answered their prayers to bring restoration to the land and then the heavens opened and the
voice of god said this work with the mud you’ve been given
and some immediately complained and began to speak of the hours they’d prayed expected to have a better return
for their prayers and once more the voice said work with the mud you’ve been given and the voice was
firmer this time than before and a cloud then appeared and it was basically in the middle of the united
states and the believers began to follow and walk towards that that cloud and even though they
the cloud was heading them or whatever headed to that cloud it was directly over some of the muddiest and the most decayed ground and those
that walked away uh past i’m sorry several also walked away though from
when they were following the cloud they walked away as if they were heading because because of how bad it looked they were starting to head away
and those that walked away they passed the churches they left their prayer guys in their bibles and they said we will find
better ground and the god that will honor our prayers and the ones that did follow the clouds
soon were in the mud up to their knees and they were struggling to move but they gritted their teeth i saw the
muscles and the veins in their arms stretching out as they were as they were pushing it was hard work and they pushed forward and then very
suddenly i heard the howling of wolves it was all around and the mud walkers they stopped quickly to listen
but they didn’t give in to their fears nobody panicked and they just kept back they got their eyes on the cloud and they started walking towards that cloud
again through the mud and within moments there were hundreds of black wolves very similar to the ones i saw in the other
dream that had been worked up and and that with these these black wolves where they were
pushing through the mud they were trying to get very close to believers and they would snarl they would try to
bite but were seemingly being held back at the last minute they got very very close to the people but they would be pulled back almost like like rope was on
them and they were at times inches from the faces of the people but the people stayed focused on
following the crowd and they kept looking up as a group to see the cloud and the sky was clear but the
ground was muddy and it was ashen gray
and people these everybody’s shirts were just covered in sweat you could tell it was it was work what they were doing
trudging through this mud and then the scene changed where um i was seeing once again the entire
states and in each state there seemed to be people who were all trudging through the mud towards this cloud at the very center of
the nation it was drawing the believers to what seemed like almost like a central point trying to get to the middle of things
and the cloud wasn’t moving it was stationary but everyone was pushing through the mud and avoiding the wolves all along the
way so this wasn’t just happening in the southern states it was happening all over the country but the closer they would
get to the cloud the wolves began making contact they were leaving marks bite marks on the people’s arms and
shoulders but yet the people continued walking and moving uh the landscape was littered
with the prince of the wolves and they were innumerable and their eyes began to glow with an intensity like i had seen
in the other dreams that that bright red almost like an led light in their eyes and they were being provoked by the
winds i could hear the howling of the winds it was it was it was stirring up their fur and you could just see the wind blowing on them
but they were being provoked by the winds but as well by people who were wearing masks and the masks that these people were
wearing were skulls witches faces faces of demons and they were all on the outside
of the mud and these people were screaming curses and blasphemous words at the believers in the mud calling them
haters and dividers there were no specific leaders as they moved along those it was in the mud
but some of them threw rocks and sticks and these sticks resembled arrows and they were thrown with the
ones in the mud and yet the believers kept pushing through towards the cloud
and though they were covered up to their necks now in mud not that literally they were covered their their arms were covered in mud
their shirts were covered in mud they weren’t up to their they weren’t walking in mud this deep that was what i was seeing they were
simply covered in mud from the work and the fight trudging through and uh the ones
literally uh they also they were pulling uh some of the weaker ones by their hands and a few
were riding on the backs of those that were stronger it reminds me very much of the september
psalm assembly event prayer event dream that i had where i saw believers helping each other
up and going through things and trying to you know encourage them but the ones that have started the mud
they remained in the mud nobody had gotten out but they were they almost they and
though most of them had looked at looked at the more solid ground around them they were like looking at like they wanted to get there they realized it was
easier to walk on that path but they were in the mud together and walking forwards a few of them paused though
to consider getting out of that mud and at that point i saw several get out because the mud was getting deeper it was
getting harder and they were helped by some of the people who were wearing the masks and once those people were out of the
mud they were given masks and began to taunt those in the mud and they said the mud is not god’s plan he
has deceived you and yet you follow without thinking for yourselves and then that christ figure that i
always see appeared in a white robe with angels all around him and he had a scepter it was just a big
scepter in his hand in his right hand and he spread his arms like this just out like this and he spoke and he said loudly my ways
are not your ways your spiritual legs will be strengthened through agony and
your witness will defend the naive and those who have no fear of me
bracing gives way to fire and those braced must remain on the path my command has
come out from among them separate yourself as the chaff is about to burn
and their smoke will fill the skies and at this point at this point in the dream i saw
absolute green lightning it was green almost like an
uh a an emerald grain multiple thunder claps filled the sky
and it seemed like it lasted for a long time and then there were blinding flashes of
light that lit the entire country up and nothing even the shadows disappeared it would cover the entire
country and i saw when when those flashes of lightning went off the wolves hid their faces in the earth
and the people harassing the believers hid their faces in shame and then the christ figure was raised up
he was like um i think of that verse if i be lifted up i will draw him in unto me jesus was lifted up he ascended from the earth and
looked down and he was raised in the sky and he thrust the scepter straight down towards the earth and he
shouted these words i am coming soon and my reward is with me
stay faithful until i come so that was the dream that i had
i had this over several nights september 18th and 20th and uh sheree and john i’ll turn this
over to you now to share your thoughts wow
get a dream um there’s a lot of a lot of figurative
clues a lot of symbology um one of the things that i like to look
for is uh specific details um i i feel like when
you’re talking about unusual weather patterns that can be a time stamp and a dream
a landscape of snow and ice i think of the polar vortex that just covered all of us
down here in texas and days without power and lots of big car accidents and just
all kinds of uh chaos down here in the southern states you mentioned from texas
to florida i think florida was relatively unharmed but a big swath of
the southern states were certainly blanketed with snow and ice
so did you have any thoughts on that cherie yeah um it’s it’s really interesting i
i work on these dreams and i break down all this symbolism and and then i’ll go back and after i’m all done with that and
i’ll pray and i’ll say lord just show me what emphasis you want on this as far as what
i’m supposed to bring to it because we all have our peace and our part um
and and i woke up with the song oh praise the name and so that song talks about praise the
name of jesus because of everything that he’s done for us that he died and he was resurrected and and all these things for us and so as i
began to relook at that um it kind of shifted my focus my first focus was on the mud because
the mud is um menacing nobody wants to trudge through the mud i had a lot of scriptures on the mud um
but then i i switched my focus but it begins with the mud so you can’t not look at that and it starts
with an icy time with fog and so when i think of ice and i think of fog i think
about a season of coldness of heart and of not seeing clearly and so that’s the state of the nation
and state of the church but as they begin to pray and they’ve been praying right the ice starts
melting around the churches and as the ice starts melting it’s not until the ice
melts till the cold cold heart begins to melt they begin to see the mud so they see beyond uh just their frozen
attitude into uh something that’s around them and then actually they now get out into
it because they leave the church to go trudging out in this mud so they see the need filing
and so it’s good for the church to see the need see what’s really out there in the world see where their life really is what do you
think john yeah i think that’s really really interesting you know what comes to mind
is a verse that talks about i think it’s an ezekiel that talks about god
sending rain and hail storms and wind and some people have said well this
is what the snow storm represents and it’s not snow it’s particularly hail and rain and wind
which is what i i see ice as being part of that and the purpose of it was to knock down
the white washed walls of the false prophets um and so i think a snowstorm is
different a snowstorm is something that is a blanketing i believe it’s a blanketing of of purity
it’s a time of a burial a season of death where things look like you know kind of beautiful they’ve been
glazed over and we don’t see the the stuff that’s underneath um and i think it’s both in the natural
and i think it’s in the spiritual as well i think the the fog and the smoke just represent a time of
of confusion and darkness where people it’s hard to see smoke gets in your eyes and can can you
know be hard to to navigate because you’re rubbing your eyes but fog um doesn’t do that but it still provides
that disc clarity i guess you could say and i feel like a lot of that first part of that first
paragraph is talking about where we’re at now where people have
lost loved ones and i think that again it’s it’s both natural and and physical there’s there’s
uh obviously the pandemic that’s still going on and meaning those numbers but
we also see the people that there were you know an amount of people lost in texas
because of snowstorm but also i think people that were standing firm in what they felt like the
lord was saying to them to their church in the nation um we’ve seen a lot of those kind of people
fall away and just say no it’s wasn’t what we thought and we made a mistake or god made a mistake or i
didn’t hear right or you know i’m not sure whatever frankly excuse that they want to give they
believe that they hear right 99 percent of the time and then when something doesn’t happen the way that they expect we’re we’re backing up and i
and and i see that as people wanting to be right and feeling that loss and so they’re
grieving uh what they see as a loss um and it even goes into the
being anchored you know they ask for their forgiveness for being an inadequate witness and being
anchored to their sins so i don’t i don’t see i see the sin is
is what they’re anchored to people are putting their hope and their belief in something
like being right prophetically and they’re anchored in that and when that doesn’t happen then they’re turning
around and repenting and say well i obviously got it wrong and i obviously this and that and they’re repenting
from being anchored something that they thought didn’t happen the way that they expected and what’s happening in the
wholeness of the dream is there’s a big uncovering as the snow begins to melt the ground is
do we begin to see the ground as the fog and the smoke begins to clear the sky begins to be clear and you begin to
see things and you get to see what’s really happening and what’s really happening is the enemy and the works of the enemy are being revealed
yeah i like that the where they’re praying because it does paint a picture of a lot in the church right they’re sorry
and they’re crying out for their lost loved ones which is um good they need it they need to be
they’re repenting for um they’re inadequate witness and our witness is marred by our sin
by the way our weakness is not just what we say it’s how we live also it’s both and so they’re they’re asking
forgiveness for that but they are holding on to the chains
their self and that’s what that that’s what has ruined their walk and that’s what they haven’t understood
yet they’re they’re they’re saying they’re sorry they’re crying out but they haven’t learned how to let go
of their sins and the question has to become you know why and i think at the end of the dream
it answers it right this is this fear of the lord but you can go on and you can see
um um they um they start getting upset with
god just second let me see what that said well and you know the question
all the way back to adam and eve was the first fact checker did god really say it was
fear doubt and unbelief you know and i think when we begin doubting what we feel like the
lord has been to us or to people that we’ve trusted in the past and we begin backing up on those things
i i believe that that in itself is is the sin it’s the sin of doubt it’s this kind of
fearing not fearing god not fearing what we’ve heard but fearing that we’ve gotten it wrong
somehow and that’s gonna provide us some amount of credibility and and i know there’s a lot of
shame and peer pressure associated with a lot of what’s happened in the last six months related to the prophetic community but i
firmly believe that god is dealing with the prophetic community and that’s part of the revealing the
blanket of purity that’s coming but also a revealing of the junk underneath which is stuff that we’re
going to have to deal with both as a nation and as a prophetic community yeah yeah because they walk out holding
their nose and asking god why he didn’t answer their prayers right and so that’s that’s significant
and he wrote and responds very quick uh clearly god responds it says work
with the mud you’ve been given in other words he’s instructing us in the beginning of
this towards the beginning of this to not get out of the mud but
to um but to continue in the mud and to trudge through and later on we
see that some people are carrying people through the mud some people have their hand and they’re
helping to pull them through the mud and so it’s this idea if those
who are strong um are carrying people then it shows that the strong are in the
mud too so uh versus the ones who are on the sidelines who are wearing these
different masks who are not willing to be in the mud they’re not willing to trudge through these
things and figure out what is true because the mud is gray so it’s it’s unclear
it’s muddy there’s no life in it they’re just having to to trudge this thing out and um and figure
out where they’re going they’re having to come into greater understanding greater wisdom revelation knowledge of
who christ is things that they thought they already had but now they’re having to figure out
what was unclear um you know it’s interesting too that man is made out of dirt
you know and you don’t get mud with just dirt you have to have water you have to have like a shower and
i think of i think of ephesians 5 where it talks about a husband to a wife is
washing her with water through the word so it’s the idea that rain brings like a purifying sense of the
clarity of the word of god and if that is fallen upon the works of men
which is what dirt and mud could represent man being made of dirt then it creates this mixture and i think
that’s what we’ve seen a lot is like a mixture of judgment and grace or a mixture of a
couple of things where man thinks this is what needs to happen and then we try to combine something that god is trying to do and
it makes it it makes this mess and that’s part of working through
that a lot of people they just want to get out of that which again is why we see people backing up and taking
words back and just you know forget everything that i said and let’s just move up and blah blah
blah and that’s people trying to get out of the mud and i don’t think the answers are easy
right now for the prophetic community based on what’s happened over the last year and i think what we have to do is we
have to stay in it and we have to work through a process and allow the cloud to lead us
those that are willing but those that just bail they they combine i believe with the
wolves and we can talk more about that later but um you know i think it’s a it’s it’s an
opportunity and that’s what god provides is twice he says work with the mud that you have
been given and you have been given means necessarily come from you
if dirt is the works of man and the rain comes from god then the mud is what
we’ve been given a combination of our stuff and his stuff but without god the mud wouldn’t exist
and so people look at the mud as that’s dirty and that’s a mess and we don’t want to deal with it but they don’t necessarily look at it as
a gift that at least partially came from the lord yeah that that’s so good i had that in
my notes about in regards to mud um jesus took and he
he made mud and he put the man’s eyeball in there he made him a new eyeball so he
could see again and this whole dream says that you’re not seeing clearly i need to get you some and so the mud
becomes um it becomes our our our issue our problem it becomes our
hindrance and it becomes our healing also it is
because you think about i mean people are yeah they’ll say sorry all day long you know oh i got my hand in the cookie jar well i’m
sorry you know and they’re not really sorry because they don’t really want to deal with the heart issue
and because they want to hold on to that chain that is their sin still and so really really repenting
takes a lot of work and a lot of effort a lot of soul-searching it’s like why do i keep doing the same thing what is my
iniquity that i can’t seem to let go of what is it that i believe that’s a lie
and god jesus wants to show me the truth but i have to be willing to let go of
that lie and you know example this in my life i was raised with this idea that people
were inherently good and and if they’re inherently good then it’s like if you give them good
information they’ll do the right thing right but the lord showed me that’s that’s wrong people are inherently
bad they’re born sinners and they have to be redeemed by the blood of jesus that’s the only thing
that makes them good and so if you take that from the wrong stance you begin to make man good and god bad and you have to
turn it around men are bad and god is good and but we have so many things like this that we’ve
been taught and we believed and we don’t even realize it and we have to trudge through the mud of that to find
what is true and to go towards its destination this cloud
that’s good that’s really good you know the part two where it says they began holding their noses to me it you know
as a dream interpreter you know the shari but as we begin to unpack the figurative language of god god will
often use plays on words and double entendres um
and it even happens um but you know we’re not going to get into a lesson on dream interpretation right now
but holding their noses is like holding what they know what they’re convinced of
like this is what i you know what i know is my noses you know here’s i’m definitely convinced
this is what i heard this is the way it’s going to happen blah blah blah and now what’s happening is because of the stink
and the stench of the mixture of the mud they’re beginning to be very very careful on what they say
and what they think they know and what they thought they were convinced of they’re starting to hold back on some of
that and i think that i’m sorry go ahead it doesn’t pass the smell test right
well it smells like death to them yeah and that they they’re not they don’t like that no the modern american
christian they don’t want to die to their flesh they don’t like the spit the stench of death
but jesus said unless you die right you can’t live and and so
they’re having trouble dealing with the the smell of it right yeah yeah that’s well i think it goes on
to um i think the dangerous part is um that those that walk past the churches
leaving their prayer guides in their bibles and said we will find a better better ground and a god that will honor
our prayers we will find something that we can make in our image
that when we say a prophetic word it’s going to come through the way that it should be and i don’t
think there’s a blatant falling away in the prophetic community necessarily and i know we’re talking
about the prophetic community a lot but we’re also talking about the church at large but i think what they’re saying is
they want to find a version of somebody that’s saying something that they can anchor themselves to because
again these are the people that like to be anchored to something even if it’s false and then they have to repent of it right
they want to they want to find something that’s solid that they can say okay this is the word this is what’s going to
happen and it’s going to happen in time frame we think and even all the way at the end of the dream
god says my thoughts are not your thoughts like what you think is not necessarily the way things are
going to happen but people don’t like to stay in that place of mixture they want it
cut and dry black or white and the mud is just all kinds of gray and it’s difficult and again every
time i see on facebook where people are posting and saying well anybody that didn’t get it right that they’re just the false
prophet and you know i’ve i’ve gotten some things wrong i think we all we’re maturing in the prophetic
but you don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and it doesn’t mean god isn’t speaking today in dreams and prophetic words he
absolutely is probably now more than ever but if you stay in the mud and begin to go back and say okay where did
we miss it what did that look like did i have cognitive bias was i listening to the words of other people
this is kind of the walking it out through the mud that’s difficult that a lot of people don’t want to be involved with and that
frankly you have to hold your nose which is also your pride while you do it yeah well then it goes
on and it and it moves from mud to uh now there’s predators in the mud also there’s these wolves and
of course wolves are are false ministers they are um spiritual warfare um
you know it talks about wolves and sheep’s clothing and and these but these wolves are
they’re they’re growling they’re they’re threatening right um
but they’re not actually touching them in the beginning so it’s intimidation uh it’s it’s false accusations
um it’s like this next section of the dream kind of gives you a lot of indicators on how to
walk through a dark season because you have the masks which are um
witchcraft skulls uh demons right it’s it’s this whole idea of
intimidation and trying to scare and
so that’s it that’s an interesting you know look at warfare that we can’t they had to
determine not to uh let that stop them they had to determine not to believe
that because then there are accusations begin to twist everything on them and that’s what
witchcraft likes to do it likes to twist the the devil likes to twist um this
these things that are actually skull would represent something that’s dead and not alive so dead doctrine
that’s not living and alive it wants to twist scriptures and it wants to call you what you’re not
and so you have to be prepared for that mentally that they’re going to tell you your haters they’re going to tell you you’re
divisive they’re going to say a lot of things about you and um and it’s going to make you wonder at some
point when everybody is saying it feel like you’re standing there you know in this small little
group you’re going to start wondering am i crazy is the devil right and it’s at that point that you have to
really hold your ground and really uh choose not to listen to them yeah you know it’s really good i think
what’s really interesting too is the color of the wolves they’re not gray wolves they’re black wolves black represents evil
i mean it represents people that have kind of given themselves over to hear the voice that’s not of god and
they’re not in the mud they’re not trying to work it out they’re snarling and trying to intimidate and so i think that that’s really interesting
biblically though all not all uh obviously symbols come directly from the bible because
there’s not a correlation with every single one a lot of times there’s correlations and wolves in particular are false
like you said false ministers but particularly false prophets and so i see these as people that were
in the church at one time that may have believed something at one time that are now using
pressure intimidation and dare we even talk about christian cancer culture
to begin to try to intimidate other people who are holding the ground on words that they believe that they got
to try to to try to tell them to get out of the mud and to be completely on the side of of
the black wolves and next to the black wolves are you know and it’s right in their face
i mean people are seeing this with the the advent of social media you can get on every day and have people that
are hating you and and you know open up your email and write dana you can
with their opinions that it’s in your face like constantly you know but i think it’s interesting
that these wolves are working with um the people with the masks on their face you know and sheree when you were
talking about the mask with his walls i immediately thought of pirates and those are people who
fly under a black flag like the wolves and who want to go in as a predator and steal something from someone that
doesn’t belong to them and i feel like it’s like the word that god has given people they want to go and they want to take
that and say no you’re wrong it didn’t happen the way you said it didn’t happen the way you thought and so they want to basically just steal
kill and destroy which is what the enemy does but the people wearing the masks are also the people that want
they want other people to come out of the mud and put the masks on they want those people to be muffled
they want them to be silenced this is not the church this is what i would call the cabal
this is the narrative in the world a lot of it is political a lot of it is very very strongly media
driven the media is the is the voice of consequence
um leading the the kind of prophets of baal right now in in america and around the
world they are the false prophets of other gods that are declaring their agenda over the nation they’re constantly constantly
constantly declaring death and declaring more death and declaring worse numbers with covid and economic
crashes and you know our leaders are idiots and this is the constant narrative
that they’re hearing and when they hear the howling of the wolves which again is the false prophets the people stop and they listen and they
shouldn’t listen they should keep going now thankfully the people in the mud do keep going but what’s even worse than the than the
false prophets is the people with the masks on but i think again one of the reasons why the people have masked
them is they want to begin to use the wolves as their mouthpiece
the cabal and the world and the demonic people that are that are involved in
in uh you know the narratives that are trying to tank this country which absolutely 100 percent exists and
if people are listening don’t know that they probably need to do a lot more research
they are trying to get people that other people trust sets the pastors and the prophetic community to begin to
back up on what they said and those people become the false prophets because they’ve
they’ve stopped following god they’re not following the cloud they’re following the people trying to
intimidate and trying to be in their faces and even the idea that their eyes have have a red glow
to me that’s just it you know it symbolizes demonic oppression you know they’re provoked by the winds
and it’s like every wind of doctrine you know the idea in james where it talks about they’re double-minded and unstable and
all they do you know and the people that are screaming the curses and the blasphemy they’re
they’re not the black wolves they’re the people with their their faces covered without any
particular leadership right yeah well it’s interesting because they’re in the wolves are in the
people’s faces right growling and so our face is our identity and they’re trying to intimidate us to
lose our identity in christ and take up a different identity and so they want to they want to credit the
devil right they want to credit death and they want to credit um what was the other one a witchcraft
and and so they they they want to change the focus off of christ onto what the devil is doing so that all
our focus is now shifted and we need to keep our focus on the lord that’s that pillar
that we have to look at that’s that you know in the wilderness experience they had a cloud and they they followed
the cloud they went to the cloud and and so we’re giving this cloud again to let us know
that that we’re in a wilderness season and we have to keep our eyes on the cloud and we don’t move unless the
cloud moves so to speak but this cloud is stationary he’s always been there he’s right in the center of
it all he wants us to go towards that that he’s the center of everything
and we don’t need to give credit everywhere and part of the reason people hold on to their sin is they’re like well the devil made me
do it you know i can’t help it he’s got control you know what that says that says the blood of christ is not sufficient for
you that’s a lie of the devil the blood of christ is sufficient for everybody and it breaks all chains and if you’re
still struggling with sin you need to stop believing the lie and you need to look on the one
who redeemed your sin and let go of the chain
yeah wow that’s really really good that’s really good you know it’s it’s interesting to me that
um when the christ figure shows up he’s in a white road and again it’s the
whole distinction between the black wolves and again the wolves are not the world
the wolves are not the world the wolves are our false prophets their false teachers
their people i believe uh some of which are people that have backed up off of what god said and you
know when when the children of israel in in in the bible in exodus when they were roaming through
the desert it’s because god took them straight to their promised land they sent the spies in
10 came out and gave a bad report two gave the right report and they spent the next 40 years in the desert working
it out they were in the mud because there were some things that leaders had said this is what’s going to
happen and it didn’t happen the way they thought there was this false report and what happened is all of those spies
and all of that that whole generation died in the desert and that’s when they were led by the cloud i think the cloud is the
graciousness of god but it’s the graciousness of god to lead us through a difficult time in a national tenor when
there’s been some people that have come against the good report that hey we can take we
can clear the land we can go in and we can remove the enemy from the land and we can live in this beautiful place that’s been
promised to us and i i see that the same thing basically happening with what’s happened this last year with the
election and everything else is there’s a view of this country that i believe most christians and certainly a
lot of people in the prophetic community believe in it’s full of freedom and liberty and
there isn’t cancer culture and we’re not supporting the mass murder of children and babies and
and all of this other stuff and and that’s what people want to move into but i feel like
we thought that it was going to be easy we thought that it was just going to happen and when it didn’t when people came back
and said hey there’s giants in the land i don’t know what we’re going to do a whole lot of people decided well what
we need to do is we just need to be quiet we need to put a mask on we need to back up we need to leave it alone
and i actually feel what god is saying about the mud is when you get down in the mud that’s when
you get into a fight you know and even the word fight has been cancelled cultured lately but i’m
talking a spiritual fight to fight for what we believe in and what we want to see in this country
and to stay in the battle which also means to begin to let our voices be heard to
begin to state and and come against the cancer culture the censorship the things that are
clearly violations of every part of our constitution and our heritage instead of sitting back and
being quiet i think we need to stay in that mud and we need to help work it out and we need
to provide the leadership that the country is going to need in the midst of a very very difficult time
you know and and and we know and we believe and we firmly hold to this that god is going to appear and he’s going to
make the way clear and he’s going to say hey he’s going to bring a scepter right the power to rule his mighty right hand
i will uphold you with my mighty right hand he’s going to spread his arms again i think of moses when joshua
was fighting the amalekites right there’s all of these scriptural references to when the christ figure appears and he
says my ways are not your will but it’s going to strengthen your legs which is
talking about it’s talking about a maturity it’s talking about a growth and your witness will offend the naive
now this isn’t just naive christians this is people that think they’re woke but aren’t this is because i don’t do
their research this is people that when all of the mess that’s exposed of the evil that’s been allowed to
persist for generations in this land comes forth these people are they’re not even going to know what to do
because they bury their heads in the sand and even a lot of christians and said well that’s too that’s too evil
for me to think about and certainly that can’t be real and and it’s at that point that the command
is then come out separate yourself from among them and allow the chat to burn
and the smoke to burn away everything that wasn’t of him which i think it’s gonna be an amazing time
yeah well i i said at the beginning that i felt like the lord wanted to focus on his majesty and so i looked up white
robe and white robe represents victory over sin and death it represents righteousness
everywhere you see it it’s uh that the two angels had on white at
uh at the empty grave you know where where jesus was resurrected um people coming out of
the tribulation had on white the lord judging on the throne was white um
so every time you see this this idea of overcoming sin and judgment and truth righteousness
you see this element of of white and then the scepter is absolutely the authority and majesty
in the kingdom of god the bible says behold he says is that the kingdom of god is at hand
and we’ve missed that as the church which we’re not operating in the power of god in the kingdom of god we’re not
seeing the acts um church right now we’re not seeing people raised from the dead
and healed and set free from demons and all these kinds of things as they were uh in such a large
way back then now we see some of it i’m seeing some of it but man we have forgotten about his
authority and his majesty and the kingdom that’s provided uh for us and so we see then you know and
you kind of touched on this this fire um
and it’s it talks about this fire uh coming it says bracing gives way to fire and those who brace
must remain on the path and he said my com my command is come out from among them
separate yourself as the chaff is about to be burned and their smoke will fill the skies
so i think about korra you know korra came against true leadership and said well we’re as good as you we
can do this too and god says really you’re gonna you’re gonna um you’re gonna come against my
decision my authority because moses didn’t call himself god called him into that position and he
says you’re gonna come against that and he says no you’re gonna come against my authority the earth is going to
swallow you up and he told everybody he says get away from quora and all his gang because it’s fixing to be back for them and um
and so they all you know the smart ones ran away and then he gets swallowed up but that’s um but that’s what the lord
is is doing he is saying that it’s time to separate us ourselves from the world because
the power of god is going to be seen and so the power this fire right fire
is judgment and fire is the power of the holy spirit it’s it’s both of those things
um and we see it burning up the chaff so we know it’s judgment because the chaff is the stuff that it
it’s not gold it’s not silver it won’t last through the fire and um
and it needs to be burned away so that what is good can remain um
okay and then it goes on down and it talks about this thundering this green lightning and thundering in the
and um these blinding fast uh flashes and shadow uh these these shadows
disappearing the wolves are now hiding their faces and uh in shame so you know he’s he’s taken
his staff which is his authority he has all authority in heaven and earth
he has the angels backing him right there there is no lack of power with the lord
whatsoever you know in the beginning of the dream the people are complaining they’re like how come you didn’t give us our
answer to our prayers how come you didn’t give us what we want and he’s like you don’t have the fear of the lord and
you don’t recognize my authority or my power who are you to complain against the living god right
how does the potter say to the uh the pot say to the potter you know why did you make me this way it’s like no you’re flawed
you’re flawed and you’re fiction to be crushed and remade and praise the lord we’re going to be remade
because that is the purpose and that is the goal we’re pressing everybody is that that is a believer in
the nation is pressing towards this one central thing and what is that central thing is christ it’s his righteousness and
holiness the whole purpose of christ’s coming was to redeem us from our sins that
that’s the whole purpose of him coming but we can’t be redeemed from our sins that we’re holding on to
we have to truly repent wow yeah that’s really good you know
just a couple more notes just at the end here when i end up at the same place that you do
sheree the green lightning i hear green lit greenlit in the movie industry is when a
project has been approved and it’s it’s gonna it’s gonna start
thunderous uh thunderous claps blinding flashes why are flashes blinking because
the eyes have adjusted to the darkness and the light and then and the night and they’re not used to a
light that lights up the whole world and it lights up the entire country and even the shadows disappear
um it was just before this that god had called them out come out and separate yourself and then
the shadows disappear it’s like god is calling us out of shadows you know and the wolves hit their faces
as well as those who persecuted the believers so even though throughout this entire
process it feels like the people in the mud are the losers and are the ones that you know are being
persecuted and and everybody’s against them and it’s not looking good for them and it’s
difficult and because jesus uh you know the the christ man shows up in white um he’s now the
majority and he has the scepter which is the power and authority as you mentioned in the great commission to
to rule he has that with him and so now the faces of the wolves and the faces of those that would harass
the believers and the christians are hung in shame basically it’s the redemption of all
things it’s the people that have trudged in the mud and stayed in the mud when it was difficult when it was hard
when they couldn’t see when they didn’t know where they were going when there wasn’t a clear leader when there was this mixture between the
works of men and the works of god and they couldn’t find out what was real they just tried to stay
following the cloud and then even when the black wolves started howling and they started
hundreds and thousands of them started harassing and then the people started you know yelling and screaming curses
and trying to pull them out and put the masks on there was still that remnant that
remnant that stayed in the mud and just like you said the mud like put on the eyes of the blind man so he could
see i i believe that first and foremost this dream is for it’s for us it’s for the prophetic
community in the larger sense it’s for the church and then kind of a periphery in an even
a larger sense it’s for the nation for those that can hear um without the god factor in it it’s an
impotent dream if the white guy that not the white guy the guy in the road doesn’t show up at
the end um it the the dream is is bad news but i think what the dream is is it’s
showing us where we’re at and because of the weather at the beginning i feel like this is the time frame
that we’re in right now where it feels almost out of control and almost like well we don’t even know what to do and there’s a
lot of voices and a lot of them aren’t positive um i think we just
know that if we stay the course you said god is going to be lifted up jesus is
going to be glorified we’re going to stay the course and at the very end the christ figure was raised up in the sky
he thrust his scepter towards the earth giving us the ability to rule and reign right and he shouted
i am coming soon my reward is with me stay faithful until i come it’s an encouragement it’s an admonition
but it’s a definitive decision the scepter has fallen these are my words this is what
will happen and so it’s something that we can anchor ourselves in and that we can know definitively this
is going to be the result and this is going to be the outcome yes that’s so good
one other thought i had was um i think that this dream is something
that and and i’m gonna um i’m gonna post this stream with the interpretation that i have as far as so
that people can look at it and maybe even print it off because i feel like this stream is significant
for showing how to go through this season that’s going to be a difficult season and um
i thought this morning about when a teacher gives a test because this is a test right it when you
think about the wilderness experience you had the um the tablets of the testimony
you have the ark of the testimony you have the manna which was a test it was all a test and aaron’s rod which
was a test of leadership it was all a test of would they follow god it’s one giant test that turns into a testimony
well a good teacher doesn’t give a test before they teach the information and so they they
tell you what’s coming they tell you how to prepare for it and then the test comes and that’s where
we’re at we’ve been prepared this tells us how to walk through the test
it tells us what the enemy’s going to do to try to trick us to get out of the test and then it
lets us know that we will pass the test as long as we abide by these prescribed
things yeah i appreciate both of you taking time to
do some interpretation work on this dream and one of the main things i see is the lord’s just trying to get us ready for the difficult things that are
coming but he also promises that his reward is with him and reward always comes at the end of
the race that’s when the when the first place or second place is handed out is the gold the silver the bronze
but in this case it’s just the the recognition of our faithfulness to serve him god will honor that
and and i think one of the most important said in here that ways are not your ways your spiritual legs will be strengthened through agony
and your witness will offend the naive and those who have not fear me i believe he’s telling us that it’s
going to be hard to walk through that mud there’s a hard path coming but if we stay faithful we keep our eyes on him and that’s keeping our eyes on that cloud
and israel you know they were led by a crowd by a day and a pillar of fire by night now the only move when the cloud moved
and this thing because it’s stationary if our focus is on getting as close to him as we can staying faithful god’s
going to honor that and i believe his i believe it’s a warning dream i believe it’s just i believe it’s also a promising dream in the sense
he’s telling us just to stay faithful and we know there’s a great thong away the love 11 minute growing cold
a lot of people walking away from the church we’ve seen kobe it has devastated some churches many churches have shut down completely
some are still not meeting in person but yet god says i haven’t left you know
i haven’t left the building i’m still here i’m still watching so i’m thankful that whatever whatever wolves we face whatever things we deal
with or have to face that he he he goes before us and uh he
is simply saying keep following keep trusting keep leaving so uh yeah we’ve got about
1400 people on right now who have been watching this and listening and thank you so much
uh for for following along appreciate it for the comments and the encouragement we’re not doing
this for any other reason than to to serve the lord and to share what we see as kevin what we think what god is
showing us because my heart is that people will get their life their lives right with the lord that the backseat will return to christ
that those that are compromising will stop compromising that people repent and confess their sins become accountable
and we can see the church rise up to be what the church is supposed to be light and salt and making a difference
everywhere we as believers need to go to work we need to go to school they need to walk in the grace and mercy
of christ and let people see who jesus is in us those are the most important things
so thank you both for being with me today on this and for those of you that have watched it please share it as you
can get the word out to as many people as possible why because we want people to be warm we want the church to be encouraged we want people to recognize
that yes even though hard times are coming there’s a faithful god who walks with us
and i even think about this you know the words of jesus one of the churches but you know stay faithful until i come
endure until i come and i want to make sure that we’re all doing that together so thanks for being with us today and for
watching and uh appreciate uh john and sheree being with me today so god bless you all
thanks for being a part of this